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by charleshmorse 2718 days ago
One mating season is monogamous? Tell my wife that.

Also, this seems to make no mention of 'rearing complexity'. A more developmentally complex brain should imply prolonged rearing and have a bias of survival in favor of shared parenting.

I guess you can find anything you're looking for in gene expressions, if you really want.

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Also, the environment and predation plays a role in monogamous behavior. Penguins are monogamous and have shared parenting because one parent has to be with the egg or chick at all times lest the egg/chick freeze or be eaten by predators. Pretty much the environment leaves no room for polygamous or inattentive penguins as their offspring and hence their genes don't make it.
> A more developmentally complex brain should imply prolonged rearing and have a bias of survival in favor of shared parenting.

Primates are significantly brainier than most of the rest of Mammalia, on average, and humans and gibbons are the only primates that are more monogamous than polygamous. Cetaceans and elephants also have comparatively large brains and aren’t monogamous.

>humans are more monogamous

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Got any citation for that?

Humans aren’t obligate monogamous but our level of sexual dimorphism is less than polygynous species like gorillas. Against this is the difference in upper strength where men are about twice as strong as women. Also in hunter gatherer societies we’re familiar with most men do not have multiple mates at one time and from the varying patterns of inheritance of Y chromosomes and mitochondria which are passed down solely along the male and female line respectively ~40% of men leave descendants. That’s not compatible with polygyny. Humans are not obligately monogamous or polygynous but all evidence points to more of the first than the second.
From what I can tell, hunter-gather societies, and possibly all of our pre-agriculture ancestors, are serially monogamous with some fooling around on the side. Children probably received support from the whole band or tribe.

The sexual part seems pretty familiar from looking around current society, and the children support part isn't far off from now either.

This makes absolutely zero sense. Not only is a figure of 40% male reproduction compatible with polygyny, it is solely compatible with polygyny.

If humans were monogamous as you suggest, the figure of male reproduction would be far closer to 100%. But we’re not. We’re polygynous — a harem-based species. And the 40% figure you just cited proves that: Less than half of the men mate with all of the women. That’s not called monogamy dude. That is called polygyny.