[pjc50]

> ultimately takes away everyone's employer-provided care

Really? Even the NHS system allows a parallel employer provided system to run alongside it, it's just only common for higher-paying jobs and those with US parent companies.

[tptacek]

Right, the rich will retain private care no matter what. The challenge is what happens to the middle class, the majority of whom have employer-provided care that they actually like (this is a major challenge with any health reform in the US: the status quo has powerful support). There's a near-consensus that the impact to the market for these insurance products will, within a few years, be eliminated by M4A.