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> devs don't really know / care about running things in production

I disagree with this entirely. Devs _you have workd with_ might not have cared but it doesn't make the statement universally true. As a counter argument, some of the best software developers I've worked with were also very good at operating and debugging production software and the reverse has also been true.

I also don't buy that the two are a different mindset (at least in the domains I work in and care about). In my experience the very best people (whether they're working "dev" or "ops" roles or something in the middle care about the entire development and deployment lifecycle of the software they work on. Building a good experience in software includes thinking about reliability and availability and planning a reliable and performant deployment also requires that to be thought of in the application layer at some point.