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by 5_minutes 2721 days ago
As I got older, I started gaming less (or not at all anymore), and after alot of Mac bashing (14 years ago), and tired of installing Windows 93 every few months for every family member, a huge Apple adaptor: just because I want to get things done, work, get paid for that, and spend my free time not messing around with Window’s flaws. That’s biased, I know, things probably improved by now, but every time I picked up a MS tablet or was given one, I still felt it was wacky.

That said, I now have all Apple stuff, even though I’m not a Apple fanboy: I just want my stuff to work and spent my free time with my wife and kids.

This sums up that I have a Macbook Pro, Ipad Pro, and an iPhone. The Macbook Pro is imho, one of the worst products they ever made. Poor battery time, crappy keyboard, no escape key, the only nice thing about it is the screen.

My iPad Pro, on the other hand... is a work of art. An incredibly good battery time (btw, battery time is also not just living on the battery, but also: working on it without a electricity socket).

So it’s safe to assume that the Ipad’s are wayyy more energy friendly then the MBP’s.

What I don’t understand about Apple is that even though the iPad’s are great machines: we need people to build software for them. So, traditional PCs (where we can connect 2-3 monitors to, etc) are still essential. I think Cooke forgot about that. Jobs, nomatter what - still kept developers in mind.

I love my iPad, and am for regular browsing not using my overpriced MBP anymore. But to replace it? To get real work done? To have a “norton commander” like interface? I think it’s still along road to go to replace the traditional desktops. And btw, the Apple iMac’s are objectively good products, that’ll last a long time for a reasonable price.

It’s painful to see Lenovo releasing these frequent up-to-date great hardware laptops, and Apple, with all their billions in the bank, doing a minimalistic effort on even upgrading the Mac Mini, Mac Pro, etc.

Is it arrogance? Focus? Steve more awknoledging the coders, even in his own way?

Either way, with many Chinese developers introducing new hard and software features (foldable phones, wireless charging) and Apple always being late to the game (but then executing it well). I wonder what their strategy is there for the moment. I know no-one of my family is going to put +1000$ for a new phone.

To me, the biggest key Apple has is MacOS which is superior to any OS out there, in consistency and user-friendlyness for any end-user. Oh: and everything looks pretty and intuitive too. Even for my mom.

I hope they step up their game and make things more dev friendly, otherwise it’ll be a open game, and really soon.

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>The Macbook Pro is imho, one of the worst products they ever made. Poor battery time, crappy keyboard, no escape key, the only nice thing about it is the screen.

The keyboard is crap. Battery life is great. And besides the screen, the speakers and trackpad are also great, and the SSD is top notch as far as laptop SSDs go.

I would rather take larger storage sizes over very fast SSD speeds. Maybe it's just because I am a developer that don't need all that speed.
IMO a solid dev machine simply does not exist right now. For about the past three years I’ve moved between Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS with crouton and Ubuntu. They all suck quite badly in their own ways. I’ve chosen Ubuntu as the least bad of the bunch and stuck with it. But I’m hopeful crostini will be my savior.
I’ve just switched to new MacBook Air (after feeling the same way for the past few years).

Use case is typical Rails dev work, react front end, databases, docker etc.

I was worried going from a 12 core Mac Pro, to the dual core MBA, but so far I haven’t noticed any difference except for those things that are faster now.

The keyboard isn’t as good as the 2015 MBP, but is far better than the previous butterfly. I don’t mind typing on it at all.

Great battery life too.

I think the new MBA might actually be the first decent apple laptop for devs in a few years.

I thought the new MacBook Air had the older butterfly keyboard?
Nope, it’s got the latest 3rd gen one, same as the Pro. You’re thinking of the MacBook which is stuck on gen1.
Ever tried Debian? It's a lot snappier than Ubuntu, especially when running a lighter desktop-- MATE and Xfce are easiest to set up IMHO. (The one pitfall I've run into is that you do need to install from media with non-free firmware if you want Wifi to work on hardware that's anywhere near current. With hardware that's newer than ~2016 you might even need to use a pre-release installer for the "testing" release)
I have, but many years ago. It’s on my todo list to try out some more distros and Debian is top of the list. My main problems with Ubuntu are things like it doesn’t always suspend, sometimes waking up from suspend the keyboard doesn’t work, etc. Minor things, but they add up after a while.
On my MBPs (2017 and 2015 models) battery life length takes a very heavy hit from Chrome and Chromium-based apps as well as from Firefox. Running native apps only alongside Safari I get great life, but if I have to open Chrome, Spotify, etc battery gets chewed through like crazy.
I had a similar journey but I went back to the Windows PC for my occasional gaming and my developer/operations experience as a Mac user became more and more broken over the years.

I'm back to Linux and OpenBSD workstations and phasing Macs out again. My iPad Pro 12" is a busted, glitchy POS and so have my last 3 iPhones. So have my last two MBPs.

Never again. I'll remain on iOS phones until there is a viable (secure) alternative.