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by mbrumlow 2727 days ago
But how are you removing a asset from circulation? Like I asserted in my original post when you are not using money, somebody else is -- unless you are actually putting your cash in a vault.

When ever you store money in a bank, it gives the bank the ability to make loans using that very money to other people who then can start other businesses which intern then generate more exchanges of cash with other people.

So again, unless you are actually storing raw cash under your bed -- the fact that you are not spending it is not a ill effect on the economy as a while. I also postulate nobody has a bed big enough to store enough raw cash that the economy would ever notice.

In short I am calling BS on the idea that you can actually remove money from circulation -- other than actually destroying it that is.

Maybe I am still missing the point, but just because you have a bunch of money does not mean you need to make boat building jobs. The bank can easily loan the money out to any of the Congolese people who can show that boat building is a good business. And you who have made a bunch of money off speculation can be part of that by simply hording your money into a bank.

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> But how are you removing a asset from circulation? Like I asserted in my original post when you are not using money, somebody else is -- unless you are actually putting your cash in a vault.

The original article - what we're actually discussing - chooses the example of buying and selling with cash through a window, and worries that actually putting the cash into circulation at all might create inflation. The example is carefully constructed to avoid anything being done with the money except buy and sell goods, and the act of withdrawing the grain from circulation is likewise celebrated as value creation. It's pure internet-Austrianism.

As for the real world, the ability of real world banks operating in a fractional reserve system to lend to boatbuilders is not constrained in any meaningful sense at the margin by speculators' willingness to deposit with them, whereas boatbuilders' willingness to pay staff and suppliers is entirely dependent on whether people who have accumulated wealth buy boats. So the causality works the same way: consumption, deferred or otherwise, is the necessary element for growth. And if people who've made a bunch of money off speculation want to really improve the world, they'll want their money invested somewhere more actively than a bank or spent.