[ahje]

I was going to write a long rant as a reply, but it all really comes down to this:

> I think it should even extend beyond personal diet to preventing others from inflicting pain on the living

If we assume a lion (or another predatorial animal) has at least a rudimentary form of counciousness, would that mean that a lion that ate a human would feel bad about it's actions?

[hjek]

Lion's are not on a mental level where we can demand that of them.

Similarly vegans are generally also not arguing for dogs to have drivers license, or to give cows the right to vote, because they don't have the mental abilities to do so.

But really, the behavior of lions doesn't have anything to do with the question of whether we should keep pigs in factory farms, and whether it's ok for us to murder.