[vinceguidry]

I didn't think I'd need to quote his actual words, but that's where we are:

> Whether it’s explicit gender bias or not, it’s important to recognize that people are afraid to speak up about how they feel for fear of getting dog-piled on by a bunch of “real” developers. That needs to change.

[threatofrain]

Sounds like you both might be right? You’re both quoting more than commentating. It looks like both of you feel the quotes can speak for themselves.

[vinceguidry]

I don't know how useful a discussion of gender bias can be if everybody's misrepresenting what people say.

[yakshaving_jgt]

That’s a fair point (as was your point earlier), and I won’t refute it.

Based on the tone of everything else written by Frost and Pickering here, I’m not taking each sentence most charitably.