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by stcredzero 2727 days ago
Somewhat like we're suddenly more willing to un-person people in our own society with less pretext, less proof, and less due process. It wouldn't be the first time in our history such has happened. Such things happen in US history as a precursor to wars, and during wartime.
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toufiqbarhamov 2727 days ago
Somewhat like we're suddenly more willing to un-person people in our own society with less pretext, less proof, and less due process. It wouldn't be the first time in our history such has happened. Such things happen in US history as a precursor to wars, and during wartime.

...And all other times. The entire history of the US was built on an entire group of people being legally “un-personed” for purely economic reasons. Are you sure it’s this phenomena you find troubling, or is it just who’s being targeted today? I’m trying to be charitable, yet I’m struggling to frame your comment in another way.

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stcredzero 2727 days ago
...And all other times. The entire history of the US was built on an entire group of people being legally “un-personed” for purely economic reasons.

Not purely economic. There were ideological reasons used as well.

Are you sure it’s this phenomena you find troubling, or is it just who’s being targeted today?

The troubling part, is that the population who historically had the rights, and practiced the exercise of them is now giving them up, spreading the narrative that they don't matter, and trying to take them away from others through de-facto power or intimidation. (Which has nothing to do with indelible characteristics, and only has to do with the status of citizenship.)

I’m trying to be charitable, yet I’m struggling to frame your comment in another way.

This is precisely the language the "un-personing" perpetrators use to intimidate people into silence and giving up their rights. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.

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toufiqbarhamov 2727 days ago
You interpreted what I said as an attack on your “personhood?” It seems to me you’re falling into the same trap of exaggerated outrage that’s so in vogue, in which taking offense is seen as something approaching a valid point or position. It is very difficult to engage with people who do this.
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stcredzero 2727 days ago
You interpreted what I said as an attack on your “personhood?”

No.

It seems to me you’re falling into the same trap of exaggerated outrage that’s so in vogue

Basically, I'm making this observation about you.

It is very difficult to engage with people who do this.

Basically, I'm making this observation about you.

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