[AndrewKemendo]

At the level of battery management, yes I think you are "weird" in the general population (like all of us here by the way).

I don't see this as any different than the thousands of other OS management decisions like how to manage memory of new tabs or apps when you have a dozen open. What if you want to keep the memory/bandwidth etc... going for one app and not the others? Where's the consent there? Same idea IMO

[nathankunicki]

Because in most other examples the decisions it makes have a virtually hidden effect. However in the case of the battery issue, the performance degradation was _very_ noticeable, causing years of comments on Apple intentionally obseleting old devices by slowing them down.

Put this way - if your car suddenly refused to go above 30mph when previously you'd happilly race along the highway at 70mph, you'd wonder what the hell was wrong, and not think "Oh well, my car manufacturer is just trying to extend the life of my vehicle, it's fine."

[Aaargh20318]

> the performance degradation was _very_ noticeable, causing years of comments on Apple intentionally obseleting old devices by slowing them down.

You just disproved your own point. This throttling was only implemented shortly before it got noticed and Apple announced it’s existence, like a couple of months at most. Apparently it wasn’t ‘very noticable’ and the perceived slowdowns were all in your head because for all those years you claim this was going on, it wasn’t.

[leetcrew]

your car analogy is not a good one.

modern cars retune their engines on the fly based on engine temperature, fuel quality, local air pressure, and other factors. this is to extend the life of the engine in general and to prevent catastrophic failure from knocking.

if you use your car as an appliance (the way most people use phones/computers), you will barely notice the fact that your car's performance is constantly varying other than a bit of sluggishness on a cold morning. to an enthusiast, it's almost impossible not to notice what the car is doing.

most apple customers just want their phone to not crash. if you offer them a performance/stability tradeoff they won't know what to pick anyway.

[cwp]

Sure. Except the manufacturer is not trying to extend the life of your vehicle. They're trying to avoid you running out of gas at 70mph on the highway.

[darkerside]

You realize that literally no cars actually do this, basically proving parent's point

[atoav]

Exactly this happened to my father last fall with a Audi Q1. It finally turned out to be a electronics issue, but the car was limiting itself to very low max speeds (40 kmh or so, which legally disallowed my father from using the Autobahn).

With a car the obvious answer is: get the thing checked immidiately. He did, and he still had to drive around like this for 2 weeks till a replacement part arrived.

[esmi]

I don’t realize that. It happens all the time. There are many services dedicated to helping stranded people because of it.

The analogy is not quite right though. It’s more like they are forcibly reducing max speed to prevent a high speed stall.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/azdailysun.com/news/local/state...

[darkerside]

Cars break. They don't rate limit you. Please share with me a model of vehicle that reduces your max speed because you're low on gas.

[esmi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Plug-in_Hybrid