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I'm simply pointing out a fact, which isn't my imagination, I've worked in Japanese high tech PCB plant in China and saw first hand what the reality is, according to the Chinese who went to the company's Japan operation to study, the Japanese made better products using older equipment.

Chinese bullet train technology was bascially bought from Germany and Japan, and I've read mutiple times that they know how to manufacture it by designs (still rely on those two for some key parts), but don't know how to improve it coz don't know why.

But the propaganda made it sound like China invented it, and it's so advanced.

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Don't get me wrong, I didn't try to say you were wrong, just to elaborate a bit on your observation.

Anecdotally, once we had a couple of Chinese auditors in the workshop (Scandinavia) to assess the quality of a delivery we were about to make to a Chinese government agency.

Once they were satisfied that key parts - motors, pumps, power electronics - were made anywhere but China, they really only had two further questions - 'Where do we sign?' and 'When is lunch?'