[darkpuma]

Even if climate change is nonsense (it isn't) it still makes sense to get off energy sources that are known to destroy air quality. This should be common sense to anybody, who likes smog?

This said some of the talk that I've been hearing recently has me concerned for peoples' mental well being. I've heard numerous peers and coworkers in the past year express belief that they would not live long enough to have grandchildren because humanity will be extinct by then. That we have 20 years or less of life, that the situation is doomed, etc. None of this is a healthy mindset.

[anonymouzz]

Yup, climate change is real - it's evident from computing average temperatures. No point in debating that.

I completely agree that smog is terrible and essentially kills people. My point was the really bad consequences of warming (mass migrations from deserted areas and subsequent refugee crises, wars over farmable land, exodus from flooded areas) can be avoided via aerosols.

[ghthor]

But the source of the warming should be completely open for debate. I for one am looking at the sun as the source, starting with the sunspot maximum event of 1958 that sparked the US government to create Nasa.

[darkpuma]

Why is that a productive debate? Even if CO2 is not the source, we should still eliminate our reliance on the combustion of fossil fuels because those fuel sources still undeniably pollute our environment in other serious ways. The mining and burning of coal is bad for our environment even if CO2 was a non-issue.

[ghthor]

For me, it's about the truth and I'm pretty tired of being dismissed because I dont agree with the anti-human narrative that's becoming the mainstream.