[madlynormal]

> Lately I have been building applications in Python/tkinter and I still can't get over how fast it is on both my mac and PC both to start up and when running.

Has the GUI of tkinter apps improved over the past couple of years? I have yet to see an interface built with tk that doesn’t look like it was meant for Win95.

[mantlepro]

For native looking tkinter, there's ttk (themed tkinter).

[notatcomputer68]

I'm always suspicious when people say something can be done. Why isn't it the default then? Because there is some drawback to that choice. But what is it?

[kkarakk]

haha, well for example there's an issue open since 2012 about how common convenience dialogs don't work with themed tkinter although i don't really understand the comments about IDLE supposedly doing it automatically but not yet?. i think tkinter is a tool you reach for coz you know python only to realize you can't really write bulletproof UI in it coz of some workaround or issue.

https://bugs.python.org/issue15191

[UweSchmidt]

I used tkinter a few years ago, since it was available on Raspbian on the Raspberry Pi. It looked bad on Linux, and it seemed tkinter was not in active development or getting a lot of attention. I remember not having found any sane workflow for how to place GUI elements and struggled to place a bunch of text boxes and buttons.

Reasonable or not, I have a hard time accepting workflows worse than what Microsoft Access or VB 6.0 had.