[Aeolun]

> Something simple that just encrypts and signs them

Like JWT?

I feel like that argument goes around in circles.

[icebraining]

tptacek's point is that JWT is not simple at all:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13866983

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14292223

[geezerjay]

> I feel like that argument goes around in circles.

I feel that the problem is that some users are talking about stuff they know nothing about, but still feel compelled to be very vocal and opinionated.