[ElijahLynn]

Great to see this is still going! This space needs competition, and I can't see a future where this potentially life-threatening (and also life-saving) technology is close source. It only seems logical it will eventually be 100% open, in order to gain public trust.

[nharada]

I really like the idea of all of this tech being open source, but I don't think it's logical that eventually it will all be 100% open. There's tons of safety critical software now that's closed source (avionics software, utility and power plant software, spacecraft control systems, etc).

[ElijahLynn]

I think society will eventually demand it, all it will take is a few fatalities, and even if society doesn't, I can't help but think that some company will win out _because_ they are open, like Red Hat.

[zucan]

Society cares about working products, not the tech behind it - I don't see calls specifically for making critical software open source any time sooner than the year of the Linux desktop.

Regulations and fines are proven tools, and even if it doesn't make autonomous cars significantly safer, it will make them expensive enough to reduce fatalities.

[jiveturkey]

in what way has red hat won out?

[ElijahLynn]

We really should be demanding that Waymo be opensource by default from our congress though. May take a few more generations to overtake the current old-brain congress though.

[knicholes]

Maybe after they've recovered the huge costs of developing their software.