Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by lapusta 5704 days ago
Java isn't just Oracle stack. It's also SAP, IBM, Red Hat(JBoss), VMWare(SpringSource) & Google stack.

The only thing you need from Oracle nowdays is JDK, and with OpenJDK becoming a standard - you need nothing.
2 comments
8ren 5704 days ago
Oracle owns Java. They will attempt to turn it into a profit center. The Google suit is one example. Another way is to make their database/s and products perform better, by integrating them more tightly with Oracle's version of Java (which includes BEA System's version) - analogously to MS making Office apps perform better under Windows.

Sure, it's against the concept of a public spec, and OpenJDK; and it might not work, or at worst fragment the Java standard and destroy much of its value - but I can't see how Oracle could help themselves from doing this. It's inevitable.

link
bad_user 5704 days ago
OpenJDK is not a standard. Java itself is not a standard open to third-parties, unless Sun/Oracle wants to.

It's not the JDK that you need from Oracle for Java to be a standard, but rather the JCK.

This issue is a couple of years old and hasn't been solved: http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html

Unless by "standard" you mean what everybody uses.

link
lapusta 5704 days ago
http://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/JckAccess/index.h... http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/08/openjdk-jck
link
bad_user 5704 days ago
Notice the part where the released JDK is only available for OpenJDK.

How does that contradict what I said?

link