[kemitchell]

> If you disagree with that definition, complain to the FSF about their subversion of language instead of me.

Whether you follow the FSF's lead is up to you!

The FSF itself changed the way it talks about these issues. Its "philosophical" writing used to distinguish "semi-free" or "source-available" and "proprietary". They even had a nice diagram showing semi-free as a middle ground.

At some point, they made a rhetorical decision to lump everything east of "free software" together in one "proprietary" pile. I wish I knew why. But the reason couldn't have been precision.

[cyphar]

> Whether you follow the FSF's lead is up to you!

Sure, but my response was to the statement:

> You DO NOT, however, get to also define the meaning of the word "proprietary."

And to clarify that I am not defining the meaning of proprietary, I'm using the definition the FSF uses (and has used for significantly longer than the span of this comment thread). Whether you think that's a reasonable definition is a different point, but I was being accused of (effectively) moving the goal-posts.

[slavak]

On the other hand, you _are_, possibly intentionally, mixing the concept of open-source as defined by the OSI, and proprietary software as defined by the FSF. You're acting as if proprietary software is the antonym of OSS, and citing the FSF definition to support it. Except, the FSF doesn't talk about open-source (except to say that it "misses the point"), it talks about Free Software. And the OSI doesn't provide a definition of proprietary software.