[kemiller2002]

I live in the Midwest U.S., those are the only conditions we have. :) (You're still right. It sucks and is painful, but it's all us non-mountain people have).

[dgzl]

You also don't have any mountains. - someone who just moved back to the PNW from Michigan and Illinois.

[ashtonbaker]

The UP has some interesting stuff, but living in Ann Arbor, it's a shorter trip just to get on a plane and go to Utah.