[jopsen]

> It's the renting that worries me.

Sort of.. on the other hand we switching cars, computers, phones so fast that many things are rarely owned for more than a few years.

We never owned the means production. But in this information age the means of production seem less and less important. You can also always find a manufacturer for your product.

[rvense]

Wasn't owning the means of production more about not being exploited for your labour, rather than about owning what was produced?

Seems to me we're moving towards a society where people are exploited not just for the labour, but their very existence. You live to pay rents and subscriptions.

[maxxxxx]

"Seems to me we're moving towards a society where people are exploited not just for the labour, but their very existence. You live to pay rents and subscriptions. "

And a few can exploit because of their existence, or even worse, their parents' existence. Maybe we should increase inheritance taxes by a lot to avoid dynastic wealth and power.