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by meowface 2748 days ago
Yes, but there is not yet any proof that Bush or Cheney lied about these things to start the war. Many in the CIA were genuinely convinced that Saddam had WMDs and/or resources to create WMDs. They turned out to be completely wrong, but it was their belief at the time. I wouldn't exactly be flabbergasted or Bush or Cheney willfully lied, but just because that's a common narrative doesn't mean it's substantiated.

Gulf of Tonkin would be a much better example.