[mrob]

If criminals can't be blamed for their crimes because they had no choice, then by the same reasoning authorities cannot be blamed for punishing them.

[intralizee]

Yes and what is your point? We should still try to push humanity further. It's like how people once viewed the world as flat. We need to keep dismantling illusions and get closer to where humanity can be the very best to all.

[grahamburger]

How can we choose to push humanity further if we can't make choices?

[intralizee]

Acknowledging illusion and reality is pushing humanity further. Society is currently structured based on an illusion.