[jelling]

Great analysis. I think of it as avoiding the DevOps explosion and it drives me nuts when I see early stage companies sinking lots of time into getting the perfect setup of what is actually just a cost center. There's likely some strained argument for how this ultimately might benefit the customer but that ROI is a long way off, and if you're still in business.

[state_less]

I'm not so sure. If I were a typical small (startup) company, I'd run on top of Kubernetes with a Postgres backend, some business logic layer in a container and serve some html/js to the browser. It's fast, inexpensive and goes wherever Kubernetes does.

Large organizations are a whole other animal. There will be many people entrenched in various ways, each with their own ideas of how things ought to be run. Often guided by technical debt and unique historical needs.

[rorychatt]

Why not start with Fargate/App Engine, or skipping containers all together and going straight to FaaS on your cloud of choice?

Small companies seem like the primary choice to skip container orchestration layers completely.

[mateuszf]

Yeah, or Heroku which is super simple and reliable to use.

[iddqd]

That's funny, I've set up the infrastructure for 3 startups with exactly that stack over the last year and a half, works wonders and is very flexible.