[yongjik]

> "so it's up to you to try to fix it but we're not gonna even suggest how ..."

More like "So you deserve a larger responsibility for fixing this and we're suggesting, maybe start with stop mining coal and not electing a president who calls climate change a Chinese hoax?" but sure, same thing.

[jibal]

You know that you won't get anywhere with these climate science deniers, who have no intellectual honesty ... they're not worth the aggravation. (And the response to my comment is exactly what I'm talking about.)

[ArchTypical]

There's no denial, as much as it is what you would ironically believe. There is likely intellectual dishonesty, which was my point.