[niels_olson]

> > don't force anything on him. ... Just let him use a computer in a completely natural way.

> This is absolutely true.

I disagree, sort of. I have a 5 yo and an 8 yo. If you let kids use a computer without guidance, they will learn how to use a computer from their friends at school. And what they learn is to fire up a browser (chrome if you've got it, otherwise Firefox) type "<some word> games" into Google and play thousands of really mind-numbing flash games. Go ahead. Try it.

[steveklabnik]

We're talking about two different things. I'm trying to say "Don't force Jimmy to program if he wants to be a football player" and you're saying "Help Jimmy to learn about what he's doing."

I'm not an expert on children, by any means, but I'd agree with both you and myself.

Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with playing flash games.