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by jswinghammer 5716 days ago
Based on my 10 years of interviewing people no one with or without a CS degree can discuss any of those things. I'm usually happy if they know what a hash table is and roughly how it works.
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I find this surprising. Maybe because we covered some of those topics in first year, and, as a second-year student, they're still fresh in my mind, but I simply can't see how someone who completes a CS degree would be ignorant on all of them. For the same reason, I can't see how fizzbuzz is a useful test. It was the very first thing we learned to program in our intro CS class. I'm not from a top-ranked school, and while we tend to do fairly well in competitions, we certainly aren't renowned for our CSc program.

I don't know whether to feel encouraged or discouraged when reading articles and comments like this. Are there truly that many incompetent CS grads and/or insufficient programs out there?

You would be amazed how many people apply for programming jobs who seem to have no ability whatsoever to write software.
All they need to do is drag controls on Visual Studio, right?
No many of them know nothing of Visual Studio. They know how to operate Google.
Honestly, aside from just having the mind for it, Google & time is all I've needed to figure out any of the programming challenges I've run into.
I think being able to google your way out of a problem is worth more than being able to grag a grid to a form, drag a query to a grid and call it a day...
Why should I have to spend Googling for how to write a H264 decoder when I can just drag one, written by people who know it really well, onto my surface?

I know that a lot of people like to argue that these people "don't understand what they're doing". Most Ruby developers don't understand much below a single level of abstraction presented by the language either.

Well, if they can't discuss those things (and an awful lot more) then they don't have a CS degree - they might have some programming qualification, but they don't know about CS.