[eherot]

I'd posit that we are going to have a very hard time fighting off climate change if we aren't allowed to do anything to discourage people from driving 40 minutes to a nearby town every time they want to go shopping. The transportation sector is the biggest carbon emitter, and at some point we have to come to terms with the fact that in order to reduce our carbon emissions, we are all going to have to drive a lot less.

[dagw]

The problem isn't just that people have to drive far to get anywhere, it's also that delivery vehicles have to drive far out of their way to deliver stuff to these places.