[bepotts]

Yeah it's really off putting. A lot of people here cannot come to grips with the fact that many tech companies are big because their customers people love their products; this includes Apple, Google, Facebook, and Amazon.

Nobody is pulling a fast one on me when I buy my iPhone and Mac. I know full well what Google and Facebook are doing with my data when I use their sites.

I. Don't. Care.

They have products and services that I want and I'm happy to fork over cash or data to get them. Please take your conspiracies elsewhere.

[reitanqild]

I used to be like you. I've defended Google until recently.

But after China, the killer drones and how they are destroying other players for no other reason than greed and carelessness I don't defend them anymore.

I still trust them with my data in their cloud, for now, but I try to reduce their power.

If we are lucky they might even become nice again in the future.

They used to be wildly profitable even when they were nice.