[warent]

> "It's very naive but many vegan and vegetarians think this way; As long as the food has that VeganTM label, it must be good, why bother even checking the ingredients?"

This has not been my experience. The vegetarians and vegans I meet are typically very conscious of what they're putting into their bodies.

The evidence is that you can be a great climber (the world's greatest free-solo climber Alex Honnold is a vegetarian.) or a gladiator without meat , and the humans' insatiable meat consumption is ruining the environment even more quickly than oil.

But I wish more people who ate meat had your disposition--at least have it in moderation rather than every single kind of meat piled on a plate 3 times a day 7 days a week which is basically the norm and sadly barely hyperbolic.

[brahmwg]

You're right, I'm sure there are alot of very health conscious vegetarians who actively monitor their health. Perhaps that's actually more common. My experience has been, perhaps contrarily, that the vegan/vegetarians I've met think that by simply omitting meat they don't need to be concerned about monitoring their health. Since that was my observation and was counter intuitive I thought I'd share.

[warent]

I appreciate your experience. For what it's worth I didn't downvote you, but my guess is it happened because your post comes across as mildly aggressive toward veganism even though that probably wasn't your intention.