[ksec]

So what exactly is "Valve" now without Steam? They don't have new games any more ( And none of the the "newer" ones were anywhere as good as CS ). They don't improve or compete in Game Engine any more, which they did in the Golden Era between Unreal, DOOM, and Source.

What have they got left? Steam OS and Gaming Machine got no where. HTC Vive doesn't look like they can compete with Sony or Oculus.

[doyoulikeworms]

Valve is still a quite an admirable game studio. Not only do their top games CS:GO and Dota 2 have large and healthy player bases, but they also have large and vibrant competitive scenes.

I don’t compare Valve to the likes of Nintendo or Bethesda anymore wrt game development, but instead to companies like Riot and Blizzard. These studios revolve around franchises-as-services and don’t release new IP often. Their core games are pillars of the competitive, casual, and streaming games scenes.

I do miss the days of more frequent releases, though. Hooray for Artifact!

[ksec]

> but instead to companies like Riot and Blizzard.

But both Riot and Blizzard is like 10 times larger than Valve. And has games and franchise that is sustainable business if the worst happens in the next 10 years. Does having CS:Go and DOTA only enough to feed them? I mean even DOTA 2 is like 5 years ago already. And Artifact doesn't seems like a hit at all.

[bytematic]

Haha Valve comes nowhere close to Blizzard or other developers. Blizzard at least updates their most popular games more than once every 6 months and doesn't leave them to die.

[wingerlang]

They have 2 upcoming games listed on their website (https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/about) and 3 'ongoing' games. They have also stated they are working on 3 full-length VR titles.