[Tuna-Fish]

And I am so stoked for it. Smalltalk did a few things right that have still not been properly copied by other systems, but smalltalk itself was doomed to obscurity the second all the major implementations went for the Common Lisp-style "ship the system as an image" brain damage.

While clojure is far from perfect, it actually has a story for shipping your code, in a form where you don't need to embarrass yourself when your customer gets it, into servers, web pages, desktops and cell phones.

[filoeleven]

Can you say more about what makes it “far from perfect” besides the error messages? What are its other weaknesses? I’m still in the honeymoon phase and want to hear more from folks who have shipped code.

[Tuna-Fish]

I personally hate the startup time. Mainly because it prevents me from using it in places I really want it.

It's gotten a lot better over the years, but it's still pretty bad.

[simongray]

Now you can use GraalVM (with a few caveats) to native-compile Clojure code, though. It's still in its early stages, but it's possible.