[kirvyteo]

Has anyone thought about the effects of NOT having google search product and services in China? I read a lot of negativity about how it is ruining the culture and personal beliefs about freedom. Has anyone balanced it with what is the upside to users (not money for Google)?

[advisedwang]

IMHO there isn't much effect of Google not being in China. Baidu works for Chinese uses. I've seen an argument that Google would be a better, freer experience, but Dragonfly shows that wouldn't really be the case.

[kirvyteo]

If we can take "freer" out of the argument for a minute.. (because not everyone in the world places personal freedom on the same level of importance)

Better search results? Better quality of information for Chinese researchers and developers? Better road information? Or email? Cloud services?