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by popee 2758 days ago
> Their second upgrade they called QUIC (pronounced "quick"), which is being standardized as HTTP/3.

Isn't QUIC new transport layer protocol based on UDP and, if I remember correctly, HTTP/3 will be HTTP bindings for QUIC?

You might think this is nitpicking, but HTTP is application layer protocol, so it's little bit confusing to me.
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dharmab 2758 days ago
>However, in those discussions, a related concern was identified; confusion between QUIC-the-transport-protocol, and QUIC-the-HTTP-binding. I and others have seen a number of folks not closely involved in this work conflating the two, even though they're now separate things.

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>To address this, I'd like to suggest that -- after coordination with the HTTP WG -- we rename our the HTTP document to "HTTP/3", and using the final ALPN token "h3". Doing so clearly identifies it as another binding of HTTP semantics to the wire protocol -- just as HTTP/2 did -- so people understand its separation from QUIC.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/RLRs4nB1lwFCZ_7k0...

TL;DR the rename is to resolve the confusion.

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yy77 2757 days ago
why not just http/quic? using 3 seems strongly suggest that it is the next generation of http. They knew that but pretend it is not relavent.
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dharmab 2755 days ago
Because there's a decent chance that it will be the next generation of HTTP.

If it doesn't pan out they'll just move on. Remember IPv5?

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popee 2758 days ago
Aha, thanks for clearing that up
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detaro 2758 days ago
Google didn't make the distinction between transport layer and HTTP-layer on top when they called their development "QUIC", it was one thing. IETF decided to split these during the standardization.
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popee 2757 days ago
Smart decision, because QUIC as transport layer could be good for other protocols built on top of it.

But hey who knows, SCTP never took of but we are talking about google here

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