[bungie4]

I moved from Toronto decades ago. Since then I've rejected offers constantly because, quite frankly, IMO, Toronto is a hole. I now find myself living north of Toronto, with limited career options but much happier near the 'outdoors' with my family.

Makes your choices, takes your chances.

[lucidone]

As someone from Northern Ontario who moved to SW Ontario for work as a software dev - how did you do this? I'd love to move back home, but there are very few jobs, and the ones that do exist are dramatically lower salaries with outdated approaches (~45k, Visual Basic or C++98 vs ~80K, whatever web tech I want). Do you work remotely?

[bungie4]

The trick is not look for work in a startup/dev environment, but in the institutional and corporate environment. Their are jobs and the payscale you desire, just not in the quantities you desire.

For instance, I was at my last position for 6 years. The last 3 of which, I was actively looking for work. It took a while, but I'm making equiv to Toronto wages in a new position.

But yes, the majority of postings are in the low rent payscale neighbourhood. Which is weird, because you'd think to attract skilled talent away from T.O., the scale would in fact be higher.

[lucidone]

Cheers, when time time comes I'll bug whatever local hospitals, banks, education institutions and admin centres exist.