[stupidcar]

Because they aren’t “just” as barbarous and cruel.

Violations of civil liberties occur in every country, but If you really believe that the rate and intensity of such is exactly the same in the UK as it is in Saudi Arabia or UAE, then you’re monumentally deluded.

[claudiawerner]

On the intensity you certainly have a point, but on rate, I was recently surprised to see that between 2016 and 2017 there were 970 recorded offenses in England and Wales relating to a 2009 law criminalizing production or possession of a category of Japanese hentai manga. Agree with the law or not, that's a huge number, especially for a topic which is, to the say the least, vigorously debated. For comparison, a similar law in the U.S. was stricken down as unconstitutional (to my knowledge) in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Alliance.

[leesec]

Maybe not to our own people.

Did the UK/US not invade Iraq/Afghanistan, are we not still there? How many governments have we overthrown? How many people have we unjustly imprisoned/killed?

It's not a 1 to 1 type comparison but in my mind it's hard to imagine the US wasn't the most cruel or barbarous civilization in the past 80 years or so.

Noam Chomsky: “Remember the worst terrorist campaign in the world by far is the one that’s being orchestrated in Washington. That’s the global assassination campaign. There’s never been a terrorist campaign of that scale.”