[hasenj]

You don't get it.

Open apps can't get on the iPhone because Apple disallows it.

Apple is pulling it out, they control what software can or cannot get in. There's no way for anyone to install anything (legally, and without hassle) on the iTouch devices without Apple's permission.

[demallien]

No, you don't get it. The fact that VLC was on the App Store is clear proof that Apple has no problem with the GPL. It is the GPL that has a problem with the App Store. Considering that there is plenty of software on the store using other open licenses, such as BSD and LGPL, and putting it together with Apple's willingness to allow GPL'd software(VLC) on the App Store, it is clear that the party causing VLC to be pulled is in fact the copyright holder and no-one else. Claims of "But, but, he made me do it!" are every bit as immature as they sound.

[thomasz]

You mean Apple is fine with distributing GPL licensed Software, they just don't want to comply with the licensing terms?

[demallien]

Ugh. Is that what you really think that I mean? In case my point wasn't clear enough, I mean to say that Apple doesn't get mixed up in licensing arrangements between app developers and third parties, or if they do, it is just to takedown software that infringes the third party's rights, not to actually comply with the third party's demands

I don't even see how Apple could comply with the licensing terms. They don't have the source code of the app in question, so they can't comply even if they wanted to. Unless you're suggesting that Apple should force every app developer to hand over their source code to Apple, and give Apple the right to distribute it without the developer's agreement? Yeah, that's an attractive deal, I'm sure it'll do wonders for the number of apps in the App Store...

[StavrosK]

There definitely is a perfectly legal and convenient way to install anything: jailbreak it and put whatever you want on it.

[palish]

Oooh! Someone said "Jailbreak"!

I've been dying to ask: What kinds of awesome things can you do with a jailbroken iPhone? I know you can install VLC + some software to stream videos from some other computer via wifi, which is pretty sweet. What else?

I've been considering Jailbreaking, but it would be cool to have a compelling, shiny reason.

[StavrosK]

You can install lockinfo:

http://thew0rd.com/wp-content/gallery/postrelated/lockinfo.p...

[palish]

Cool! That's definitely shiny!

I can do all of that with my current iPhone anyway though.

Gimme a reason to void the warranty... god knows I want to!

[StavrosK]

Wait, how can you do that with an unjailbroken iPhone?

[palish]

Well, what you showed, will display:

- any missed calls

- any new voicemails

- and any new text messages.

Each of those, I can check simply by sliding the "unlock" slider.

The daily event isn't really relevant because all events will alert me anyway (because they beep when it's time to do it).

Mail again isn't very relevant.. I'm mostly at a computer all day, I have email open anyway.

The weather I just don't care about.

Apologies for sounding argumentative / etc, I don't mean to! I am merely pointing out that I want to do something cool with a Jailbroken iPhone, something I can't do with my regular iPhone. Else I'll pass. :)