[paulsutter]

So you agree there is room for them to work on this, yet you feel they are making engineers generally look like cultists?

Maybe you’re just being oversensitive. The hype wave on AI danger is completely over, and there’s nothing wrong with people studying the question if that’s their interest.

[ggm]

You know we've been here before, right? I mean, lighthill report, Ray Kurzeweil is a serial offender for over thirty years, the singularity is around the corner thing, outrageous claims for fMRI, self driving cars. Over hyped ibm Watson which now health professions are talking about misdiagnosis problems.

Sure. We have google image match and better colorisartion and some improvements in language processing, and good cancer detection on x-rays. These are huge. But hype is, alas, making engineering increments look like cult.

[paulsutter]

Ray Kurzweil was never part of AI danger-hype

[ggm]

No. That was my random anti AI bias coming out. Ranter gotta rant