[TheOtherHobbes]

The bigger problem with FOSS is that FOSS isn't actually user-editable at all. It's developer-editable - which is not even remotely close to being the same thing, except for that tiny subset of projects where end-users are developers.

It's basically open blueprints, not open systems - with predictable results.

There's never been a truly open system, although Hypercard, Excel, VBS, and Smalltalk have all tried (and failed) to edge into that space in their different ways.

FOSS has certainly never shown the slightest interest in developing an open system.

It has always been more of a charter for tinkering than a glorious liberation for end-users frustrated with bugs, poor UI choices, and all the other things that end-users hate.

[type0]

> It's developer-editable - which is not even remotely close to being the same thing, except for that tiny subset of projects where end-users are developers.

There are plenty of FOSS software where one could do meaningful changes that improve your user experience without being a developer. This includes customizing the theme for your desktop, translating the software into another language etc

What do you even mean by open system?

There are plenty of regular (non-dev) people that propose great ideas for changes to FOSS programs that later get implemented, you don't get this kind of interactions with your users with proprietary sw because that your "intellectual property" and who the hell are you to dictate how to do things with my property attitude (which is, if not implied then anticipated by most users).

[AsyncAwait]

> FOSS has certainly never shown the slightest interest in developing an open system.

Really? I got into Linux originally when I saw how you could swap DEs and customize practically everything. I wasn't a developer back then.

[seba_dos1]

Just don't use GNOME. /s