[arkh]

> What are you going to do, keep the regular coders locked in the basement working on CRUD apps and a penthouse full of cool evangelist programmers writing OSS for no good reason?

You kinda sorta described SensioLabs: the good team is working on Symfony proper. While the other people are on the web agency side of things and quality is usually not the same.

[nellyspageli]

Square is also like this on the Android side of things. The Square Cash team is the penthouse of cool evangelist programmers and the rest of the company is locked in the basement.