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by sebcat 2771 days ago
A few of these (all?) are TUIs and not CLIs.

CLIs are command driven. TUIs are driven by user interactions. I'm sure more/better distinctions between the two can be made.

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that's a fair point, but i don't think that's what the OP meant. CLI is commonly used to cover TUI when pittet against GUI.

greetings, eMBee.

On one hand it's in the acronym command line interface and on the other

"was wondering if anyone had any solid recommendations for applications that one can use in a terminal window" it really looks like he meant to express console apps not cli I think you are correct.

I don't believe that's true. TUI has more in common with GUI than CLI.
I bet you five dollars OP was looking for TUI programs as well.
sure, conceptually it does, but that's not the point.

what matters for most is the fact that i can run the application in a text only terminal, on any machine (remote or local), from any device (be it linux, windows, mac or even a mobile phone (ok, that's rarely practical, but it's possible))

a GUI does not offer that advantage.

greetings, eMBee.

> what matters for most is the fact that i can run the application in a text only terminal, on any machine (remote or local), from any device (be it linux, windows, mac or even a mobile phone (ok, that's rarely practical, but it's possible))

> a GUI does not offer that advantage

Sure, not in the terminal, but X forwarding is a thing and works on every system I've had to use it on.

it doesn't work on the majority of systems i have to work with, which is servers that don't have the necessary tools installed.

it's also very susceptible to latency and most applications don't handle slow connections in a usable manner. (they are designed with the expectation that the gui always responds instantly)

to get something of a tmux/screen like experience, xpra is available, which is an awesome piece of work, but it doesn't help with the latency. even over just local wifi i have some applications become unusable over xpra when they work ok over plain remote X.

the problem is not necessarily X but in part GUI in general. i can't click the mouse anywhere until the respective UI item is visible, so i have to wait for that.

on a commandline on the other hand in most cases i can keep typing even on extremely slow connections because i can anticipate what will happen and i know what keys are appropriate to type next.

using mosh i even get something like editable typeahead which is a marvel and very hard to imagine on X.

greetings, eMBee.

Oh, I never said I _enjoyed_ X forwarding, or even use it frequently. My point was just that remote access in a similar way to a shell is possible with a GUI, and could be made even better if X had a means of not having to draw everything but left it up to the toolkit on the other end.

But yes, in general, a shell is just much better:)

I wish more people made the distinction and more people made TUIs too...