[_8j50]

Why were there no military actions against russia for DNC hacks then? Sure,they might bomb a few useless places if a 3rd world country did it. But the US will need to weigh the cost of attacking countries like China,N Korea,Russia or any one of the currently US allied western european and some asian countries like Japan and Vietnam. Good chance the attackers deny relationship with the Gov't,US will respond with just air strikes and sanctions.

If N Korea caused something like the 2008 crash,is it worth a regional nuclear war by invading them? You're also assuming it's just one country that will attack and they haven't already prepared an invasion against mainland US

[rattlesnakedave]

>Why were there no military actions against Russia for the DNC hacks then?

Probably because the “evidence” Russia hacked the DNC is dubious at best.

[Hextinium]

There are reports from the FBI, CIA and joint reports from the Department of Homeland Security detailing what they describe as intention from Russian backed security groups.

Here are two links to the joint reports from the three letter agencies involved:

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR...

[TheOtherHobbes]

The US appears to be shockingly unprepared for social cyberwar.

If you're an aggressor, you don't need to break infrastructure or blow things up. For the cost of a few troll farms, a few training classes in infowar, and maybe a mainstream news outlet or two, you can split any country along its political fault lines and encourage division, sectarianism, social unrest, "spontaneous" terrorism, and perhaps eventually civil war.

A country like the US, which has extremely deep social fault lines, is almost ridiculously vulnerable to this kind of attack.

And with the right financial and/or political incentives, there will always be potential fifth column interests who would support such an effort, as long as they gain personally.

The US has sponsored efforts like these in other countries in the past. There doesn't seem to be much understanding that it's also vulnerable to them - far more than it used to be, thanks to the amplifying effects of social media.

[TomMckenny]

Indeed, the society is so divided, just sowing a little bit of doubt would be enough to prevent the huge decision of retaliation. Merely some anonymous accounts on influential forums could be a very cheap way to make strides in that direction.

So cheap in fact that I'm not surprised if we witness exactly that very, very nearby.

[rattlesnakedave]

Those are both almost entirely lacking in any technical evidence.

[_8j50]

The dutch literally watched the russians over cctv cameras(apt28).

[partiallypro]

The hacks may have manipulated public opinion, but that's it. Why is that worth military attack? It's not.