[dcow]

I agree with you on the “people don’t examine their principles and hold consistent world views” thing. You see it everywhere but and it frustrates me so so very much. But I think the travel ban is actually was super immature and is actually an example of the right being inconsistent. You’re American until you travel to Iran then you’re subhuman? What! Come on. Of course we need to scrutinize people who enter even if that means closing our doors to refugees if we can’t handle the load, but a travel ban that applies even to US citizens... that’s inconsistent.

[andromedavision]

> You’re American until you travel to Iran then you’re subhuman?

That's obviously very ill informed (I'd like a link to this or a pointer to such incidents if you don't mind).

However, could there be more to the story? If there's a threat that the individual(s) might have been radicalized (and there are enough instances where this has been the case), then Americans might have to be smarter about whether they can allow you back into society without severe scrutiny or even detainment where evidence supports it (curious if there's sufficient legislation to resolve this though).

[dcow]

> But citizens of these countries who are legal permanent residents in the United States initially were held for long hours at airports, and those who have immigrant visas also were denied entry.

I know citizens eventually got back in but it could have been handled better.