[StanislavPetrov]

>They have been to be a known tool for the Russian government

Known by whom? Its been over 2 years and there has still been absolutely no evidence released at all proving this. Claims made by the CIA, the US government or anyone else are proof of nothing, despite what you may think.

>even going as far as creating a show for Julian Assange on the state-backed RT TV Network.

Larry King has a show on RT too, is he an agent of the Russians also? The fact is that RT gives all sorts of people shows - especially people who make us look bad. What is really unfortunate is that so many of those shows are able to make us look bad without lying at all. They just have to give a platform to people (like Chris Hedges) willing to report on the many misdeeds we have, and continue, to commit.

The Russians are no angels and neither are we. The very heart of this case is about freedom of the press and free speech. If we let the government decide who is "legitimate" and who is allowed to publish then there is no "freedom of the press" at all.

[midniteslayr]

sigh ... The current Secretary of State (and former CIA Director) has directly called out and said that WikiLeaks has done work for the GRU or the Russian Intelligence. https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2017...

This shit is easy to lookup ... and the fact of the matter is, trying to claim that "we" are as bad as the Russians is the same shit Putin does to dispel any criticism against his fucked up regime's actions. No matter how bad the US has been in Wars and sticking their fingers in democratic elections, the Russians are 10 times as worse and they know it.

[monocasa]

Just because you italicize "sigh" doesn't make you any more right. I've found it easier just to assume that the heads of national security are lying. They've been caught perjuring themselves too many times to count.

[StanislavPetrov]

> The current Secretary of State (and former CIA Director) has directly called out and said that WikiLeaks has done work for the GRU or the Russian Intelligence. https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2017....

Not sure what part of "claim" you don't understand. It doesn't matter who makes the claim. Claims by the Secretary of State or the CIA are no more credible than claims by you or I if they don't come with evidence we can independently scrutinize. Older people should have learned this lesson in 2003 with the WMD debacle. Those of us who are even older should have learned it at the Gulf of Tonkin.

>trying to claim that "we" are as bad as the Russians is the same shit Putin does to dispel any criticism against his fucked up regime's actions.

Demanding evidence I can scrutinize is not "dispelling criticism". If you trust the evidence- free claims of the government (or anyone else) - on any matter - you are incredibly naive. Unfortunately you aren't alone.