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Many middle boxes do flow control and such based on deeper packet fields.

I did mention sctp over dtls, but not as a replacement for quic. Only to say that it is a transport protocol that already is being used

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> Many middle boxes do flow control and such based on deeper packet fields.

Which is exactly why we need QUIC (or something like it), because they shouldn't, it's causing more problems than it helps.