[lic-defender]

Listen to yourself: "We have to censor all possible communication methods and imprison people for words because jokes about Montenegrins being lazy are going to cause World War 3". "Calling a gun-crazy redneck a gun-crazy redneck is hate speech and subject to a fine of no greater than $5000 or no greater than 30 days in jail".

[tabtab]

You don't have to jail people immediately. Give them a stern warning. If they do it again, THEN jail them.

Re: "[Silly that] jokes about Montenegrins being lazy are going to cause World War 3" -- A line has to be drawn somewhere. If the context is jokes, maybe let it go. But if it's part of a political rant that certain people should be discriminated against or removed, then a line is crossed.

Maybe if you had the daylights bombed out of your community like in WW2, you'd have a different perspective. Fully free speech is nice, but so is being alive. Dead people have no speech.

[claydavisss]

Please tell us how your experience of being bombed in WW2 shape your posts on HN!

If people valued safety over freedom, the war would not have been fought at all...the Allies would have simply signed over Hitler's gains to him in exchange for a cessation of hostilities. Oops they tried that at first. Didn't work.

I think we can safely conclude that you do not speak on behalf of WW2 survivors

[tabtab]

I'm just trying to put myself in their shoes. Your other statement appears to be "if they had strategically been better, the war wouldn't happen." That perhaps may be true, but moot as far as I can tell. Humans mess "strategery" up because they are humans. An argument based on humans being perfect is an imperfect argument.