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by atomicnumber1 2779 days ago
> I will close my account. And here lies the issue. Just you closing the account doesn't work. Your friends, your family, others you talk to on whatsapp shall also migrate. And that's the biggest issue.
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I previously closed a ton of other social media accounts and guess what, my friends are still my friends and my family has not abandoned me. In fact I have more time for friends and family now. In hind-sight most social media use was just a giant waste of my time. Now people just call me or send me an e-mail when they need to contact me. Signal-to-noise is much better.
I think this explains my case clearly, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18432085
In Mexico and Spain everyone uses Whatsapp.

iOS users don't use iMessage since SMS are expensive, and not using Whatsapp would be social ostracisation since Android has a bigger market share than in the US.

In Mexico a lot of businesses have support numbers via Whatsapp. Heck, you can even order food and other stuff like LPG gas.

> iOS users don't use iMessage since SMS are expensive

But iMessage is free. It just uses your phone's internet connection, just like Whatsapp

> > iOS users don't use iMessage since SMS are expensive

> But iMessage is free. It just uses your phone's internet connection, just like Whatsapp

Except when you're sending a message to someone who isn't an iMessage user, or if the "Send as SMS" option is enabled, resulting in what you thought was an iMessage becoming an SMS/MMS.

The blue/green colour difference, as well as the light grey text in the input field, isn't always immediately obvious.

By contrast, Whatsapp is always free. You can't send someone a message on Whatsapp and discover it's gone out as an SMS/MMS after the fact.

That said, I still prefer iMessage personally.

In the US iOS has a 40% market share.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held...

But in Mexico it's probably between 10% and 20%. I can't seem to find any recent stats.

Only between Apple devices
I could never get my family on whatsapp in the first place, so I’m not too concerned.
Successfully participated in moving my entire family and in law family and another group of 300+ members since Facebook bought them.

None of those people use Whatsapp anymore as they prefer other solutions.

I still have WhatsApp on one device and it is active but nobody contacts me there anymore.

Feels good.

What did you switch them to?
Telegram.

I know half of HN hates Telegram and I like it less than when I started moving (and to my defense that was before WhatsApp improved their crypto from close to nothing to state-of-the-art.)

It has served us well but I don't like the constant bragging combined with breaking a number of best practices and I'm looking for alternatives now and might start moving users to a system that stresses me less sometime during the next year. Alternatives right now are signal, matrix etc.

(Did I regret moving away from WhatsApp after they fixed their crypto? Not at all: they still uploaded all chats and sneakily tried to use all WhatsApp data to feed their spam cannon.

Matrix is certainly worth taking a look at. I always liked how whatsapp and telegram mobile apps were very snappy. That's something that is going to be fixed in riot quite soon, apparently.
I don’t know about chat, but i’m quite sure they didn’t just try to use WhatsApp metadata, but rather put it to full use. I believe they even admitted so.