[anonuser123456]

To be considered suicidal, I believe you need to have formulated a plan. Feeling worthless or not wanting to be alive is not the same, that's just bread and butter depression.

[DanBC]

This is incorrect.

People can be suicidal - can have suicidal ideation - without having an active plan.

Thoughts of "I feel trapped", "I feel hopeless" are red flag signs even if the person doesn't have a plan at that moment.

It's probably a good idea to remember that bad advice about suicide can cause death.