[cyphar]

I think, long term, the best solution is something like GNU Taler[1] which is anonymous (for consumers) e-Cash system. It doesn't require cryptocurrencies or anything, it can work with VISA or PayPal just as easily.

And it's auditable, so that governments can still tax businesses (which avoids the fear that governments have around large-scale, automated and fully-anonymous payments).

[1]: https://taler.net/en/index.html

[O1111OOO]

> https://taler.net/en/index.html

Firefox reports today (11nov18, 10:55am, PST):

> taler.net uses an invalid security certificate.

> The certificate expired on November 11, 2018, 2:13:27 PM GMT. The current time is November 11, 2018, 6:55 PM.

> This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely.

[cyphar]

It works for me, seems like they fixed it. They use LetsEncrypt so must've messed up the auto-updating of the certificate. In my defence, I've done this before as well.

[hiaux0]

> it can work with VISA or PayPal

Sounds promising, thank you, I will try them on my next donation