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by puzzle 2782 days ago
Are you going to collaborate with folks working on Kubernetes or other projects to find a way to automatically expose z pages, e.g. to the Kubernetes dashboard or the GKE console pages? That's one of the first things that ex Googlers miss from Borg. Under Borg you have to create a magic file with an HTML fragment, but there were APIs to help with that.

Developers and devops folks can plumb those manually, of course, using an Ingress object, but that's tedious and unneeded friction.
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mmclean 2782 days ago
Yep! The Java library has some basic z-page support, but adding high quality z-pages will be a big part of the OpenCensus agent and OpenCensus service that we're developing now. These can be used within Kubernetes environments or on plain VMs.
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puzzle 2782 days ago
High quality z-pages are great, but if there's no easy and secure way for a developer to get to them, they become useless. Rather than their contents or generation, my question is about automatic discovery and secure, restricted proxying of the pages. I don't want to tell my colleagues to run ad-hoc kubectl commands for each service or pod they want to inspect.
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mmclean 2782 days ago
Ah, got it. We've discussed exactly this (within Google) with some of the Kubernetes maintainers who have similar wishes to yourself. The most immediate z-pages related work is focused on making them better in the more general case, as they're extremely barebones at the moment and are specific to each language's library. After that we'll explore the native Kubernetes integrations that you're asking for.

It'll come, but it's going to take some time.

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