[tinyvm]

> oh yeah, I'd hate to be stuck on a Thinkpad or and XPS machine, the 2 best laptops on the market.

Even when Excel , Chrome , Gmail take 30-50 seconds to open up ? And your laptop freezes when you are dealing with more than 10000 rows ?

That's your opinion i guess.

[nine_k]

I won't hope that a phone would handle 10000 rows much better.

But that "Excel" thing might be an answer: the laptop must be running Windows, and Windows users often run an antivirus, and some Windows antivirus software is known to be terrible. (The MS-provided basic antivirus was always fine in this regard, though.)

[guelo]

Indeed one of the biggest drains on corporate productivity are unaccountable bully IT departments. I recently quit a job because I wasn't allowed to escape aggressive antivirus software that made compilation insufferable.

[arbie]

> I recently quit a job because I wasn't allowed to escape aggressive antivirus software that made compilation insufferable.

This seems a drastic response.

[timClicks]

Cortana (well, search indexing) also really hurts performance. They're both disk I/O heavy services and make the whole machine sluggish imo

[wolfgke]

Turn Cortana off.

[timClicks]

I've tried disabling the Search Index Service a few times only to find that it's restarted itself.

[tinyvm]

>I won't hope that a phone would handle 10000 rows much better.

Galaxy S9 has 2 X 4 Core @ 2GHZ , my corporate laptop has an i5 from 2015 with 2 @ 2GHZ.

I'll go with the Galaxy.

[vetinari]

Yet that i5 will be way faster than whatever ARM is in Galaxy. It will also have much faster SSD than the eMMC in phones, and will be paired with faster RAM to boot.

All these things take way more energy, so your laptop will also have much bigger battery.

[philippeback]

The phone with 4G will not be subjected to stupid corporate firewall rules preventing access to, say, StackOverflow.

[vetinari]

Unless your phone was issued by your employer, is managed by MDM and runs all the traffic through your employers firewall anyway.

On the other hand, there are laptops, that have cellular radios. My old Thinkpad surely does.

[solarengineer]

Some exception cases: the phone needs to run a Mobile device management agent that installs and launches an antivirus, or the mobile happens to connect to a corporate VPN that routes all traffic and then inspects it via some appliance.

[icebraining]

I'd just activate the hotspot on the phone to use the laptop.

[piyh]

I guess they like hiring more devs to do less work.

[nine_k]

Frankly, 10k rows is something that an IBM PC from 1985 should have handled adequately, using SuperCalc.

Depends on what you're doing with these 10k rows, though.

[tehduder9]

FYI GHZ isn't a good indicator of performance difference between 2 different types, models, and architecture;

it's like comparing the revs of your cars, it's just the cycle rate, not the Instruction rate

[taruz]

x86 GHz != ARM GHz

[drKarl]

Well, GHz is GigaHerzs or 10^9 cycles/second.

So Ghz is Ghz regardless of x86 or ARM as thisvis just the clock speed.

Another discussion is how much work is done each cycle. For that you might use GigaFLOPS or TeraFLOPS (10^9 or 10^12 dloating operations per second) or another absolute measure of performance.

[eikenberry]

What did they do to that poor computer? On my 3 year old Thinkpad Chrome/Firefox take < 1sec to start and Gmail takes a couple seconds to load. Can't talk Excel as I don't use it.

[Jaruzel]

The recipe is quite simple:

1. Take a nice shiny new laptop

2. Install Windows onto it.

3. Throw a large bucket of badly written monitoring apps, security apps, encryption apps, in-house apps, and pointless business notification apps.

4. Lock down the OS so the end-user can't remove or stop any of the added chaff.

5. Watch the nice shiny new laptop slow to crawl under the weight of all that crapware.

This is speaking from experience - I have 10+ years of designing and deploying corporate Windows based Desktop/Laptop builds. It all starts fine, until some clueless internal committee decide that they want to install everything and the kitchen sink onto your nicely designed platform...

[drngdds]

If Chrome takes 30-50 seconds to open and your computer was made in the past ten years, you should probably reformat

[agency]

Why would running these things on your phone be faster?