[Skrillex]

My intuition would be that a significant component of the effect is that the patient believes they have been treated. Until we see evidence otherwise, I see no reason to assume that the placebo effect is not weakened by the loss of that component.

[kevinwang]

I agree with your intuition, but I'm guessing the parent was referencing this: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/placebo-can-work-even-kn...

[Skrillex]

I have seen it. I do not believe that this test (or others, yet) compared known placebo treatments to unknown placebo treatments.

[kevinwang]

I see. Yeah, intuitively you're almost definitely right.

[yters]

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