[elicash]

I think you may have misread what I wrote.

I'm not arguing that we are or aren't a democracy, or saying that view is valid or invalid. I'm simply saying that if someone thinks that we're not a democracy, then they have a moral obligation to try to do something about it.

> My personal suggestions...

Personal suggestions are pointless without action. If that action isn't voting for someone, then all I'm saying is tell me what actions you're going to take instead?

I find it obnoxious that while some of us are doing the HARD WORK for free that others complain from the sidelines. Not speaking to you specifically, but if someone thinks voting is pointless then do SOMETHING that isn't. Don't leave it to other people to do the work.

[kotajacob]

I see. However I disagree that they have a moral obligation to do something about it. You're setting up a bit of a false scenario. You said "if you don't believe we are a democracy, then I want to see your plan for turning us into one." That assumes those people all want some sort of change into a democracy and that it would be morally irresponsible for them to want something other than democracy, such as for example the status quo. Also not everyone thinks democracy is the proper end goal.

You're also assuming that because someone does not vote they are also not doing anything they believe will better their situation in regards to the government they live under. They very well may be doing _exactly_ what they think will help improve their governmental situation.